Did Barack Obama Commit Fraud To Enter University And Get Financial Aid?

As discussed previously, no matter where Obama was born, so long as his mother was American, he is a natural born citizen of the US. This is simply US law. You can disagree all you want, but it will not change reality.

At the same time, this does not at all mean that Obama has nothing to hide. For one thing, here is (what purports to be) a registration transcript for a Fulbright Scholarship while he was at Occidental College:

It shows that one “Barry Soetoro” claimed Indonesian citizenship so that he could qualify for the Fulbright Scholarship.

The website that I got this from notes that,

Numerous official government documents records Obama being legally registered as Barry Soetoro. School registries shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro. During his Occidental College days he is registered as Barry Soetoro. An entry in the journal of the California assembly in reference to grants given to foreign exchange students (this official government document lists Obama as a foreigner not a US citizen. A US citizen wouldn’t qualify for foreign exchange student funding) states Obama as Barry Soetoro from Indonesia.

That website, however, uses this information to claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen of the US, and is therefore not entitled to be president. However, assuming that all of the above is true, the weight of the evidence does not at all suggest that Barack Obama was not a natural born US citizen–it suggests only that he may have committed fraud in his university applications and to get financial aid.

The seriousness of this fraud would depend on what documents he presented in his various applications, and what the specific laws entailed. It could very well be that Obama had dual citizenship with the US and Indonesia, and was taking advantage of both citizenships as the need arose. Would this have been illegal, or simply unethical? In either case, Obama may not want the truth to come out, and this very well could be why he has been less than forthcoming with his university records.

There is real fog and smoke in Obama’s past, but this continual harping on whether or not he is a “natural born” citizen does no one any favors.

Let’s stick to the real issue: Obama routinely lies and obfuscates when it suits his advantage. This is something unbecoming of a president, and is in fact a character flaw that should–under normal circumstances–be enough to disqualify him from being president. However, we are not under normal circumstances. Smoke and fog being spewed out by the right will not help push Obama out of office. Indeed, it only strengthens his cause.

In short, anyone interested in pursuing Obama’s past needs to get the facts and get them right.

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15 Responses to Did Barack Obama Commit Fraud To Enter University And Get Financial Aid?

  1. Dana says:

    Indonesia does not accept dual citizenship. He gave up any claim to U.S. citizenship to be educated in Indonesia, and get Indonesian benefits during his time there. His Mother was underage, in Kenya, and gave birth there–the assertion by his family members who attended his Kenya birth. Having an underage Mom may disqualify him from being a U.S. citizen born abroad. Chicago newspapers, HEADLINES, proclaim him as a Kenyan-born Senator from IL. There is more to this than meets the current headlines, obviously. We have elected a president with truth on the witness stand, and being condemned. “Do you swear to tell the truth, THE WHOLE TRUTH, and nothing but the truth?” This president could not swear to that–not so far. He leaves out truth and we find out truth…later, much later.

    • John Scotus says:

      Sorry, but I don’t buy it.
      A child cannot give up US citizenship, and cannot lose US citizenship because of what a parent did. It is simply not possible under US law. The relevant laws allow the child to choose his/her citizenship at the age of 18.
      The US did not recognize dual citizenship at the time either, but many people still received dual citizenship nonetheless, and the US Supreme Court threw out that law as unconstitutional. In order to lose one’s citizenship, essentially you must renounce it yourself, as an adult. His parents could not do this for him.
      There were birth announcements for Barack Obama in the Hawaii papers–certainly Hillary would have pounded on the issue of his birth if there were any evidence that he was born abroad, but it was the Clinton campaign’s own investigators found the birth announcements.
      As to the idea that Obama’s mother was underage and he was born abroad, therefore he is not a US citizenship–I have seen the relevant statute and I know that there was a technically a loophole in the law. However, his own birth date is listed as August 4, 1961, and his mother’s as November 29, 1942–this means that she was eighteen when he was born. There is not one single shred of evidence to suggest that these dates are wrong. In addition, before her marriage his mother was still living at home with her parents. To say that she left the side of her parents to go overseas as a pregnant teenager of 17 in order to give birth in Kenya is simply absurd. Her parents would not have allowed it. As for his father, Barack Obama was effectively an anchor baby assuring him that he could stay in the US. Why on earth take the mother overseas so that the child could be born in Kenya, when the father had so much to gain by having the child in the US? Further, given the known dates of her schooling, she would have had to had gone to Kenya during her summer vacation in order to give birth–there was not an airline in the world back the that would have allowed a girl eight month’s pregnant on the plane, and I am not sure that an ocean liner would have allowed it either.
      Let’s assume, for the sake of argument that she did in fact leave the safety of the US, the support of her parents, and excellent medical care as a 17 year old to give birth in a small village in a Third World country, and by this small technicality Obama may not really qualify as a US citizen. Frankly, I cannot see either Congress or the Supreme Court disqualifying him on this basis even if concrete evidence existed that it was true–and this evidence absolutely does not exist. It will not happen.
      This is a dead issue, and frankly an embarrassment.

  2. Well said, John. The real sin, in my opinion, is the sin of omission on the part of the media to properly vet the candidate Obama. If it were almost anyone else, all of the skelletons would have been dragged fro the closet. There was mch that the American voters did not know about Obama’s connections to Marxism that should have been aired in public. As a result, we elected a Marxist as our President. That makes me sick.

    • John Scotus says:

      Thanks for the comment. I agree completely. There is a lot that we do not know about Obama–it was foolish for America to choose an inexperienced person they did not really know that well for “king”.
      People need to get the facts and become better informed. At the same time, we need to do a better job of fighting this man’s lies. People are still too willing to believe in him and in what he says–despite all of the evidence that he is a snack-oil salesman–simply because he somehow makes them feel comfortable.

  3. loopyloo305 says:

    Is it not renouncing your citizenship when you claim to be a citizen of a foreign country, that as Dana says, does not recognize dual citizenship, in order to obtain benefits that would not otherwise be granted? Isn’t it illegal to use a false name in order to profit and defraud the government as he has by using the Barack Obama if his name was legally changed to Barry Soetoro? It seems that if the evidence is true that this man has spent his whole adult life basically as a lie! Where does that leave us and how can we expect him to do differently now? If he is willing to go as far as he has with lies, what incentive does he have to ever tell the truth? It seems as if we have a man in the White House that is willing to do anything for gain and that is a truly dangerous place to be in!

    • John Scotus says:

      No, it is not renouncing your citizenship. There are very specific requirements for surrendering one’s American citizenship, and as per the US Supreme Court, getting or having dual citizenship does not in and of itself fit these requirements.
      The real question is not his citizenship, but whether or not he misrepresented himself on his university and financial aid applications, and to other people.

  4. Yochanan says:

    You are wrong on the citizenship issue. The changes made in 2001 simplified the issue of citizenship, but the parent or grandparent must apply for naturalization of the child. In addition, more criteria must be met.

    Prior to 1986 the requirements of children born abroad were…
    A child is automatically granted citizenship in the following cases:
    **1.Both parents were U.S. citizens at the time of the child’s birth
    ***2.The parents are married
    3.At least one parent lived in the United States prior to the child’s birth.

    1986-2001
    **1.The person’s parents were married at time of birth
    2.One of the person’s parents was a U.S. citizen when the person in question was born
    3.The citizen parent lived at least five years in the United States before the child’s birth
    4.A minimum of two of these five years in the United States were after the citizen parent’s 14th birthday.

    IF he was born abroad, his birth Certificate would have needed to be obtained from Washington D.C. as mine was. I was born in a US Army hospital in Berlin, Germany in 1963 to two married parents.

    Obama’s parents were not married, She was underage and their is NO record of naturalization. The birth certificate posted at the white house is a total fake with 9 layers in the document, different pixel sizes and some layers have scanner “ringing” while other layers have none and part is a color/scan while other parts are pure black insertions (Pixel color #00000000000) which is impossible if it were a scanned document. I can only assume he was born abroad and steps were not taken to make him a citizen.

    • John Scotus says:

      Proof? You have none. This is all supposition. I do not buy the idea that she traveled to Kenya as an unmarried a 17-year-old to have a baby. Her high school graduation records and her university records would have had to have been falsified to cover this up, and Barack Obama Sr. would have had to have met her while she was still a high school student in order for this to be true. You are drinking Kool-Aid my friend.
      I’ve four children born abroad and not a single one had to get a birth certificate from Washington DC–it could be obtained at the local US Embassy.

      • John says:

        If you are abroad! Proof? The is non proof out there of anything yet. Better read the Foia docs online She was married feb 61 in hawaii, had Obama aug, she was at UW in September. BO senior went back to hawii.

        • John Scotus says:

          The question is not about me or where I am at–it is indeed irrelevant to my point. As for the rest of your comment, it seems just as incoherent as your wanting proof that I live overseas.

      • John says:

        FYI: They were attempting to deport Obama. Sr. For Bigamy. Thus, the legally not married/married arguement. He was already married to a Kenya wife, when he married Ann. Ann and her second husband did not claim Bo Jr on their 1973 taxes, but they did claim his step sister. This is very odd for a couple that told immigration they had few resources. The second husband was caught cheating on his taxes.

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  6. dougpow says:

    He is not a natural born citizen. U.S. Court case Minor v Happerrsett says other wise.
    http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=88&invol=162
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/justiagate_natural_born_supreme_court_citations_disappear.html
    A natural born citizen requires TWO parents whom are both citizents.

  7. john says:

    is that Obama’s handwriting???

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